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"The Lost Tomb of Christ"
A List of Quotes
on the Documentary
Regarding the Overall Premise of the
Documentary:
Prof. Amos Kloner,
Israeli archeologist who oversaw the original discovery of the ossuaries:
It makes a great story for a TV film. But
it’s completely impossible. It’s nonsense.
Dr. Albert Mohler,
President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary:
Well, it is only startling in terms of the
sensationalism…. You are talking about a tomb that was discovered, as you said,
well over two decades ago. The archaeologists there in Israel, who are the
closest to this, have the greatest expertise, are not only looking at this with
skepticism, but basically dismissing its claims.
Dr. Jodi Magness,
Department of Religious Studies, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill:
If Jesus’ family had been wealthy enough to
afford a rock-cut tomb, it would have been in Nazareth, not Jerusalem… This
whole case (for the tomb of Jesus) is flawed from beginning to end’
Dr. William Dever,
professor emeritus, University of Arizona:
The fact that it’s been ignored [since
1980] tells you something. It would be amusing if it didn’t mislead so many
people.
Dr. Leen Ritmeyer,
biblical archeologist, Associate Professor at the College of Archaeology &
Biblical History, TSW University:
It would have to be an archaeologist’s
worst nightmare. Imagine — your careful academic work, as was Amos Kloner’s
supervision of the tomb’s excavation for the IAA (Israel Antiquities Authority)
in 1980 — hijacked by Hollywood. And that to produce a sensationalist
documentary…. It is possibly the most cynical claim yet to be made in the field
of Biblical Archaeology and only serves to give the subject a bad name.
Dr. Aren Maeir,
Director of the Tell es-Safi/Gath Archeological Project and a lecturer at the
Martin
Department of Land of Israel Studies
at Bar Ilan University:
Since, along with, most probably, the
majority of archaeologists who deal with the ancient Levant, I have been asked
about the question of the supposed tomb of Jesus and his family …, I thought
that I should join the very clear message of the responsible archaeological
community and say — this is HOGWASH!! (excuse my French!).
Dr. Laurence Stager,
Professor of the Archeology of Israel at Harvard University:
From what I know about it at this moment,
it sounds rather preposterous.
David Mevorah,
Curator of the Israel Museum:
[Any theory that] this tomb was a tomb of
the family of Jesus is a farfetched suggestion, and we need to be very careful
with that.
Prof. L. Michael White,
Director of the Institute for the Study of Antiquity and Christian Origins,
Univeristy of Texas:
This is not archeologically sound. This is
fanfare.
According to the Washington Post:
Leading archaeologists in Israel and the
United States have denounced the purported discovery of the tomb of Jesus as a
publicity stunt.
Regarding The Names in the Tomb:
Prof. Amos Kloner,
Israeli archeologist who first catalogued the ossuaries:
The name “Jesus son of Joseph” has been
found on three or four ossuaries. These are common names. There were huge
headlines in the 1940s surrounding another Jesus ossuary, cited as the first
evidence of Christianity. There was another Jesus tomb. Months later it was
dismissed. Give me scientific evidence, and I’ll grapple with it. But this is
manufactured.
Dr. Paul Maier,
Department of History, Western Michigan University:
All the names – Yeshua, Joseph, Maria,
Mariamene, Matia, Judah, and Jose – are extremely frequent Jewish names for that
time and place, and thus most scholars consider this merely coincidental, as
they did from the start. One-quarter of Jewish women at that time, for example,
were named Maria.
Dr. Ben Witherington III,
Professor of New Testament Interpretation at Asbury Theological Seminary:
We have absolutely no historical evidence
to suggest Mary Magdalene would have been called by a Greek name before A.D. 70.
She grew up in a Jewish fishing village called Migdal, not a Greek city at all.
It makes no sense that her ossuary would have a Greek inscription and that of
her alleged husband an Aramaic inscription. … Mary Magdalene is called ‘Maria’
constantly in first century Christian literature, and indeed well into the
second century as well. She is never called Mariamene or the like. … The second
word on the Mariamene ossuary is Mara which is short for Martha another female
name. It is not a reference to her being a master or teacher. … Jesus is never
called ‘son of Joseph’ by anyone who knew him intimately in the NT — not by his
family members, and not by his disciples.
Dr. Richard Bauckum,
Professor of New Testament Studies, St. Mary’s College, University of St.
Andrews, Scotland:
[After an extensive linguistic treatment,
Dr. Bauckum concludes:] There is no reason at all to connect the woman in this
ossuary with Mary Magdalene, and in fact the name usage is decisively against
such a connexion.”
Dr. Andreas Kostenberger,
Professor of New Testament and Greek at Southeastern Baptist Theological
Seminary:
The claim that Mary Magdalene’s bones were
found in one of the ossuaries on the basis that the name “Mariamne” (Mary) is
inscribed on it is bogus; the connection drawn here is pulled completely out of
thin air. [Moreover,] If you had been Jesus and (for argument’s sake) had had a
son, would you have named him Judas (same as Judah or Jude), like the man who
betrayed you?
Dr. Stephen Pfann,
President of Jerusalem’s University of the Holy Land and an expert in Semitic
languages:
I don’t think it [the “Jesus” ossuary] says
Yehoshua. It says Hanun or something. … [In any case,] the idea that the
originator of a religion like [Christianity] would end up in such a plain
ossuary is kind of telling as to whether this is really potentially the tomb of
Jesus of Nazareth or not.
Dr. Dan Bahat,
Israeli archeologist currently with the University of Toronto:
Yeshua was such a popular name during the
Second Temple Period. The fact that you have such similar names is due to the
fact that these were the prevalent names during that time.
Dr. Charles L. Quarles,
Chair of Christian Studies, Louisianna University:
Even by the calculations of the authors of
The Jesus Family Tomb [the book that parallels the documentary], there were
approximately 1,008 men named Jesus, son of Joseph who lived in first-century
Palestine! They calculate that 1 out of every 79 Jewish males in Palestine
during the century of ossuary use was named “Jesus, son of Joseph!”
Regarding the DNA Evidence:
Dr. Carney Matheson,
Lakehead University Paleo-DNA Laboratory, the one who did the DNA testing for
the filmmakers:
The only conclusions we made was that these
two sets [from the “Yeshua” and “Mariamne” ossuaries] were not maternally
related. To me it sounds like absolutely nothing.
Elsewhere, Matheson noted that possible
relationships (which DNA cannot establish) could be:
…father and daughter, paternal cousins, half brother and sister (sharing the
same father) or simply unrelated individuals. The media does what they want.
Discovery Channel debate with Ted
Koppel, which followed the documentary on Sunday
night:
There is a statement in the film that has
been taken out of context. While marriage is a possibility, other relationships
like father and daughter, paternal cousins, sister-in-law or indeed two
unrelated individuals [are also possible]…
Dr. Darrell Bock,
Research Professor of New Testament Studies at Dallas Theological Seminary:
There is the DNA showing that Mariamne and
Jesus DNA residue do not match. Now with how many women in Judea would Jesus’
DNA not match? Even women named Mary/Mariamne? This proves nothing. … In fact,
the fact that only two boxes were tested means that we do not even know if this
is a family tomb, since the two tested show no relationship. The DNA could prove
the exact opposite of what is being claimed.
Dr. James White,
Christian apologist, Director of Alpha and Omega Ministries:
One of the main “tests” I had in mind for
this book [The Jesus Family Tomb] when I picked it up was this: Will the book
honestly discuss the limitations of mitochondrial DNA? Will they admit that such
analysis can only speak to maternal relations, not to paternal relations? Will
they tell us what Dr. Carney Matheson has confirmed that such a test cannot rule
out that Yeshua ben Yosef was the father of Mariamne? Or will they spin the
results? The answer was: spin, spin, spin.
Dr. Al Mohler,
President of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary:
The DNA testing is to me the most laughable
aspect of all of this. I mean, frankly, there could be a thousand, thousand
different explanations for whatever DNA pattern they could find.
Dr. Gary Habermas,
Chair of the Department of Philosophy and Theology, Liberty University:
The ONLY THING the DNA evidence establishes
positively is that this “Jesus” and this “Mariamene” found in the tomb are not
maternally related. This hardly shows that they were probably married! So this
is only a guess. She could have been married to any one of the four men, or to
other family members, or she could someone’s daughter. We must remember that
family tombs were from extended families and were often multi-generational. So,
Mariamene could have lived decades earlier or later than Jesus.
Regarding the Statistical Evidence:
Prof. Andrey Feuerverger,
statistician used by the filmmakers:
I must work from the interpretations given
to me, and the strength of the calculations are based on those assumptions… If
for some reason one were to read it [the name “Mariamene”] as just a regular
form of the name Maria, in that case, the calculation produced is not as
impressive, and the statistical significance would wash out considerably.
(Source: Discovery Channel debate with Ted Koppel which followed the documentary
on Sunday night.
Dr. Mark Goodacre,
Associate Professor of New Testament, Duke University:
The major part of the case that the Talpiot
tomb is Jesus’ family tomb is based on a statistical claim. … I think this case
is severely flawed. The essential problem, as I see it, is that the matches
between the Talpiot tomb and the early Christian literary record are factored
into the calculations in a positive way, but the non-matches are simply ignored,
or treated as neutral. This will not do. … In short, including Mariamne and
leaving out Matia and Judas son of Jesus is problematic for any claim to be made
about the remaining cluster. All data must be included. You cannot cherry pick
or manipulate your data before doing your statistical analysis.
David Mevorah,
curator of the Israel Museum:
[The chances this is real] are more than
remote. They are closer to fantasy. … [Their statistics are] a good trick. …
Statistics can bring empires down or build them up. But I wouldn’t build a
theory of the most important person of the first century on statistics.”
Dr. Claude Mariottini,
Professor of Old Testament, Northern Baptist Seminary:
Only gullible people can believe Cameron’s
claim. In a recent interview on television, Jacobovici said that there is a
statistical probability that this is the real tomb where Christ was buried. A
person can manipulate numbers and arrive at almost any preconceived conclusion.
You cannot prove historical claims by using statistics.
Dr. Charles L. Quarles,
Chair of Christian Studies, Louisianna University:
[After an extensive treatment of the
statistical probability of these names, Dr. Quarles notes that:] Approximately 1
out of 442 families in Palestine in this period were a Jesus, son of Joseph with
close relatives named Mary and Jose/Joseph. … Consequently, the statistical
argument does not prove at all that the Jesus of the ossuary is Jesus of
Nazareth. It is neither statistically impossible nor improbable that this Jesus
is another Jesus.
Dr. Tal Ilan,
scholar who compiled the Lexicon of Jewish Names that was essential to the
statistical calculations put forward by the documentary:
` I think it [the lexicon] was completely
mishandled. I am angry.
According to Yahoo! News:
The Israel Antiquities Authority declined
to comment [about the recent documentary]. But in 1996 a spokesman said that the
probability of the caskets belonging to the family of Jesus were ‘next to zero’.
Regarding the Missing ”James” Ossuary:
Robert Genna, Suffolk Co. Crime Lab
Directory, who tested the patina samples for the
film:
The elemental composition of some of the
samples we tested from the ossuaries are consistent with each other. But I would
never say they’re a match… No scientist would ever say definitively that one
ossuary came from the same tomb as another… We didn’t do enough sampling to see
if in fact there were other tombs that had similar elemental compositions… The
only samples we can positively say are a ‘match’ from a single source are
fingerprints and DNA.
Prof. Amos Kloner,
Israeli archeologist who first catalogued the ossuaries:
[When asked: What of the assertion that the
10th ossuary disappeared from your care and may be none other than the “James”
ossuary?, Kloner responded:] Nothing has disappeared. The 10th ossuary was on my
list. The measurements were not the same (as the James ossuary). It was plain
(without an inscription). We had no room under our roofs for all the ossuaries,
so unmarked ones were sometimes kept in the courtyard (of the Rockefeller
Museum).
Dr. Joe Zias,
Paleopathologist at Hebrew University, archeologist who worked with Amos Kloner
on the original find:
Amos Kloner is right as I received and
catalogued the objects, the 10th was plain and I put it out in the courtyard
with all the rest of the plain ossuaries as was the standard procedure when one
has little storage space available. Nothing was stolen nor missing and they [the
filmmakers] were fully aware of this fact, just didn’t fit in with their agenda.
Dr. Dan Bahat,
Israeli archeologist currently with the University of Toronto:
I don’t think the James Ossuary came from
the same cave. If it were found there, the man who made the forgery would have
taken something better. He would have taken Jesus.
Dr. Mark Goodacre,
Duke University, quoting John Poirer:
Another thing that doesn’t add up are the
dimensions of the ossuaries in question. As I posted on this list on Oct 8,
2006, Tabor’s claim that “the dimensions of the missing tenth ossuary [from the
Talpiot tomb] are precisely the same, to the centimeter, to those of the James
Ossuary” is bogus. *BAR* lists the dimensions of the James ossuary as 50.5 cm x
25 cm x 30.5 cm, while the report on the Talpiot tomb published in *Atiqot* 29
(1996) 15-22, lists the tenth ossuary as measuring 60 cm x 26 cm x 30 cm.
Dr. Ben Witherington III,
Professor of New Testament Interpretation at Asbury Theological Seminary:
Much is made of the fact that the chemical
analysis of the patina on the James ossuary and some of the ossuaries in the
Talpiot tomb match up. This is not actually surprising at all since you can find
terra rosa in various locales in and around Jerusalem. This analysis cannot
prove that these ossuaries all came from the same place or were interred in the
same spot. Terra rosa is not a soil specific to the Talpiot region!
Regarding the Scholastic Credibility Of
The Producers:
Dr. Paul Maier,
Department of History, Western Michigan University:
Please note the extreme bias of the
director and narrator, Simcha Jacobovici. The man is an Indiana-Jones-wannabe,
who oversensationalizes anything he touches. … As for James Cameron, how do you
follow The Titanic? Well, with an even more “titanic” story. He should have
known better.
Bruce Feiler,
non-Christian author of Walking the Bible:
And therein is the truth of this tale: This
exploitation of quasi-science is hardly new, but it’s still tawdry. The bottom
line: There is more truth in Dan Brown’s fiction than in James Cameron and
Simcha Jacobovichi’s fact.
Dr. Garret G. Fagan,
Professor of Classics at Penn State University:
They’re not scientists, but they need to
dress themselves in the clothes of science to pass muster… Television is not in
the business of education, even with the so-called educational channels like
Discovery. “Ultimately, they’re in the business of making money. … By the time
the rebuttals come out, the mass media would have moved on to the next sensation
and people will have this vague notion that they have found the tomb of Jesus.
Dr. Christopher Heard,
Associate Professor of Religion, Pepperdine University:
Barely a year after misdating artifacts and
misinterpreting texts (including the Bible) willy-nilly to try to convince
viewers that the biblical exodus from Egypt really happened (albeit not like the
Bible narrates it), James Cameron, Simcha Jacobovici, and Charles Pellegrino are
back to try to convince us that a tomb unearthed in 1980 is “The Jesus Family
Tomb.” … Jacobovici never let a fact get in the way of a good theory before. Why
start now?
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